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random thought of the morning: why is it always "you may now kiss… 
29th-Aug-2003 10:08 am
random thought of the morning: why is it always "you may now kiss your bride?" isn't that awfully male-centric? shouldn't it just me "you may now kiss each other?"

good thing i plan on getting he/she/it/them to help us write our own ceremony, and i live with the officiant. :)

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in other amusement, i'm starting in on the edits for my own job description this morning. because come hell or highwater, we have to have a volunteer coordinator hired and in here before i leave, unless we want to see any of the progress i've made in the last (gods) seven months go away. i gave them six months notice, so, by $diety, we will have someone hired in a timely fashion, if i have to sit on people to get it done.

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it's pretty sad that i'm already wishing it were time to leave. but it's Friday, woot.

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i'm shaving my hair off tomorrow. well, okay, technically, sarastro_us is doing the shaving. i am giddy at the notion of not having to deal with hair anymore. the short hair has been nice, but it's still a pain in the ass. so, the hell with it, off the hair goes.

sister dear, do me a favor and don't relay to our mother, please? :)
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29th-Aug-2003 10:27 am (UTC)
Shaving what hair?
29th-Aug-2003 10:30 am (UTC)
um, the hair on my head. i don't trust anyone with anything else. :)
29th-Aug-2003 03:25 pm (UTC)
A bald joyce? I've always wanted to do that to my hair.... just to know what it feels like...
29th-Aug-2003 10:36 am (UTC) - In answer to your random thought...
Yes, it's very male-centric. It dates from a time period where a woman's only power was in running her husband's household, and even there she was expected to bow to his wishes.

I think one of the reasons paganism and goddess-religions are becoming so popular is that they're more balanced as far as power between the sexes, and some of them lean towards matriarchy.

And sometimes I think that the reason some people cling to tightly to "traditional, jude-christian values" is because they LIKE the way society was male-dominant....

But I've been philosophical today after a discussion of faith and beliefs with a good friend last night. :)
29th-Aug-2003 10:38 am (UTC) - I prefer...
....the James Brown version:
"You may now get on up, stay on the scene, like a sex machine. Yow!"
29th-Aug-2003 10:47 am (UTC)
I've actually always heard it as "You may now kiss the bride."
29th-Aug-2003 10:51 am (UTC)
Which is even more male-centric. Reduce the person to an object, the bride. Yay. :P

I'm sorry if my tone sounds catty. I'm not trying to be. I just have issues with the "traditional" institution of marriage.
29th-Aug-2003 10:56 am (UTC)
It's certainly better than "You may kiss a bride." Lord only knows what some men would do given that instruction! ;)
29th-Aug-2003 11:06 am (UTC)
*laughs* True enough! At least with the bride, you know which one it should be. There's usually only one bride at a wedding...
29th-Aug-2003 10:57 am (UTC)
Which is even more male-centric

Not really. No moreso than referring to the groom as "The Groom" or the best man as "The Best Man", or, for that matter, "The Newlyweds". The fact is, calling the people anything other than their names turns them into something. So my feeling is stick with convention, but be fair to everyone -- don't call the groom by his first name and the bride "The Bride". It's either "The Groom" and "The Bride" or "Dick" and "Jane".
29th-Aug-2003 11:03 am (UTC)
"You may now kiss the Dick."

er, no, wait.
29th-Aug-2003 11:16 am (UTC)
I'll give $10 to anyone who puts that statement in their wedding. :-) (The quote, not the "er, no, wait". ;-) )
29th-Aug-2003 10:51 am (UTC)
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29th-Aug-2003 11:51 am (UTC)
Anonymous
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........oh my gosh.....not sure if i like that idea but......and it might cost you a little to keep me from telling the parent folk as you call the :)

your shocked sis
29th-Aug-2003 11:55 am (UTC)
we can talk :)
and it'll be decently grown out by Christmas.

i dunno. i mean, you can tell Mom if you want, she's going to see it sometime. she's just going to freak a bit.
29th-Aug-2003 12:05 pm (UTC)
Our ceremony used: "You may seal your covenant with a kiss." Which likely was stolen from Wayne and Lisanne's, to tell the truth.
29th-Aug-2003 12:17 pm (UTC)
ours was "you may now seal your union with a kiss" because we had a bunch of union-y type language in our ceremony anyway, and because i objected to much of the man-ist-ness of traditional weddings, ESPECIALLY the part where your father GIVES YOU AWAY (as if he owned you to begin with) -- needless to say we cut out that part! and yet, i changed my last name, so maybe i'm not really a feminist :) you will enjoy your shaved head. i sure enjoyed mine. it was the best.haircut.ever. and sometimes i miss it quite a bit with this lame excuse for hair flopping about. ;)
29th-Aug-2003 05:12 pm (UTC)
pics? :)
30th-Aug-2003 06:36 am (UTC)
When my father walked me down the isle and was then asked who gave me away his response was "Her mother and I" which was fine with me.
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